Sunday, June 18, 2017

It's Not Just You™ - Fallout 4 Crashing with NVIDIA's SHARE Game Recorder (Possibly Relating To The High Resolution Texture Pack) [Notification, Text-Only]

Updated 2017-06-19: I found one cause of the crashes with SHARE and Fallout 4 (for me) - The HRTP

Just a quick post to say that, if you are experiencing Fallout 4 CTDs (Crashes To Desktop, where FO4 closes without any messages or anything and you are left staring at your Desktop in Windows), I want to let you know It's Not Just You™ - as I am finding I am experiencing this as well, lately...

I haven't looked into Forums specifically for this, but perusing Forii off and on over the past year or so, where many are talking about Fallout 4 and Crashing, it seems to happen a lot to people anyway, unfortunately. I myself wasn't experiencing this very much, gladly, until just recently when playing FO4 again (and spending way too much time building up Settlements instead of getting Quests done), I was testing out different Game Recording Programs and started seeing this happen.

I'm happily playing Fallout 4, getting frustrated at the Building mechanics or shooting some Raiders attacking my Settlement, when all of a sudden, BOOM - desktop image and icons. No message, nothing. Fallout 4 has closed itself instantly. I of course start it up again and begin to see where I last hit QuickSave or the game automatically Saved for me - but this has happened a few times in a row now where BOOM - the desktop greets me and icons appear. No message, nothing.

So, I tried to pay attention to what I was doing or what was running as Background Tasks - and the one thing I found, that when I changed it, the crashes stopped happening?.. I was recording with SHARE, NVIDIA's new version of ShadowPlay, their game recorder that is included with their Graphics Driver. Interesting. I have up 'till now had no issues with SHARE, enjoyed testing it out, taking Screenshots with it and testing out the various Quality settings and forgetting about all of those tests and never writing about it. It seems to have great performance (very small performance 'hit'/effect) and has a decent amount of options/features.

I then tried some other game recording programs I have purchased over the years, Playclaw, Bandicam, Mirillis' ACTION, and none of them had any Crashing occur while I was using them (although Fallout 4 didn't seem to like to start up with Bandicam running sometimes [but when I started the game first then Bandicam, it recorded fine]). Hmph. That's too bad, I was liking SHARE. There could of course be a myriad of things that could be causing this (I have sometimes run into the game not starting up, with a black screen then shutting itself down again/closing, no matter what game recorder I am using - and again, there are people with high-end Intel CPUs and NVIDIA 1080's with CTDs...); but for me, it seems to be SHARE, at this time. I might go and mention this in the Official NVIDIA Forum, if noone else has recently. Perhaps this is just a temporary issue in this game and their Drivers, in this version.

I am running NVIDIA GPU Driver Version 382.53 in Windows 10 64-bit, on a GTX 1060 3GB GPU, as of the date of this post.

I know this was a Text-Only post, but I took this screenie of the Driver
Version (so I would remember it) and didn't want to waste it


I mention all of this because, I was not really experiencing any Crashes-To-Desktop with Fallout 4 prior to thinking of testing out SHARE for a while, just a bit ago. I am Level 42 in the game, after 'starting out a second time' and enjoying playing again, taking notes and screenshots for some future posts on it, while I slowly build and shoot my way through The Commonwealth... Where was I? Oh yeah, the crashes. It's sad, but I want others to not feel alone. If you are experiencing Fallout 4 closing without any error messages recently, and you have an NVIDIA GPU, just letting you know - It's Not Just You™...



Update 2017-06-19:
I did some more testing and found that I was able to use NVIDIA's SHARE to record with, for quite a long time (hours), when I disabled/uninstalled the High Resolution Texture Pack DLC.
I am not sure if this is the only related aspect to it (as CTDs happen for even GTX 1080 users and higher capability systems than mine and it happens to those not using the HRTP), but for now, it seems that this issue may be directly related to that [for me] as it crashes far more often than without running the HRTP - and I have no crashes when recording with other Game Recorders and The High Resolution Texture Pack...

Is it that the HRTP is 'too much' for my little 1060 with only 3GB of VRAM and SHARE together? 
Is it related to how the game then uses more RAM (I have 16GB of RAM installed) with the HRTP and possibly a symptom of some RAM issues, perhaps?
I'm not sure of a solution yet, so I cannot say - but if you are experiencing this problem of 'Crashing while recording Fallout 4 with SHARE', try disabling the High Resolution Texture Pack for FO4 - it worked for me, just now. (Alternatively, use a different Game Recorder for the time being..). HTH


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